- JD Vance discussed his "chaotic" 12-year marriage to Usha Vance during an appearance on Steven Bartlett’s Diary of a CEO podcast on Thursday, 18 June.
- He described Usha as his "best friend" but admitted there were many times he thought their relationship would end.
- Vance attributed early problems in their marriage to his own "avoidant attachment style."
- He confirmed that he and Usha have not attended couples' counselling together.
- Vance explained that while he has been to therapy individually, he finds it "way too uncomfortable to talk to a stranger" in a couples' setting.
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